Goddamn the NGRA*

*(National Gun-Running Association)

| July 11, 2012

I don't often address myself to members of the National Rifle Association, but today, I can't resist. I realize that once more, I'm summoning up a doodoo-storm of online contempt. It would appear that the NRA maintains a perpetual search engine dedicated to sniffing out any reference to "gun nuts" that might pop up. I don't know how else to explain that every time I write about gun nuts, I get responses from creepy corners like Texas, Virginia and Caldwell, all yapping the common theme of how stupid I am.

However, my skin is sufficiently thick to being called stupid, particularly by anyone who would belong to or defend the NRA. If you accept the notion--as I have--that the Republican Party has become the clearing house for all the dumbest ideas that all the dumbest Americans have to offer, then you might agree that gun nuts are the dumbest of the dumb. In Venn diagram terms, they are the circle entirely within the larger circle.

My friend Badger Bob is convinced their obsessive behavior is some sort of weird sexual deviation, that they substitute an abnormal attraction to firepower for normal, healthy relationships with other human beings. Maybe so ... maybe so. But I prefer to focus on their most obvious feature--the thing we can all see without having to consult Freud--that being, their stupidity. Best example: How could anyone not dismally dumb believe anything that comes out of Wayne LaPierre's mouth? As the NRA's spokesman, he has been insisting that this president is going to be the death of the Second Amendment. This, in spite of not one single action taken by Barack Obama to separate the hillbillies from their shoot-'em-uppers, or one single indication he intends to do so.

And now, with all the contrived hysteria over the Fast and Furious debacle (see the July 4 column), the NRA's deviltry is on full display. As publicly claimed by LaPierre and the slimy Darrell Issa, Obama actually designed the whole affair in a ploy to strip gun nuts of their lethal toys, even after accurate reporting has shown they are either abysmally ignorant about the details of Fast and Furious or are flat-out lying about them.

To that last point, I turn my attention to those NRA members who are so eager to get to their Internet connections and shower me with their scorn. Bubbas, before you unleash your mighty wits on me, I invite you to read Katherine Eban's outstanding piece of investigative journalism, "The Truth About the Fast and Furious Scandal," in the June 27 Fortune magazine. It can be found online, but I warn you, it is much longer and a great deal more involved than a bumper sticker. And it contains some big words. To get all the way through it with any noticeable degree of comprehension, you might want to set aside a weekend in a quiet room without distractions.

Herein, I will include a few of the salient truths about the affair you might miss if left on your own. Fast and Furious was never about letting guns "walk" their way to drug cartels. It was an earnest attempt by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to stop the flow of powerful weapons to those cartels by identifying links in the chain. It is estimated that 2,000 military-grade guns are flooding into Mexico daily. Up to 55,000 people--Mexican cops, soldiers and innocent civilians, as well as drug thugs--have been slaughtered in the past five years, all with guns supplied through American dealerships.

Phoenix, where Fast and Furious took place, has more than 850 licensed gun outlets. Arizona gun laws are so slack, if you're 18 and don't have a felony record, you can walk into one of those outlets, plunk down $20,000, and walk out with 20 or more automatic weapons. Then, even seconds later, you can resell what you just bought to another guy out in the parking lot. That is the murderous daisy chain our ATF was trying to break up.

What went wrong is that prosecutors could find so little that was illegal in the practice that they would not prosecute. Imagine that: 200 miles from the Mexican border, one man can buy as many assault rifles as he has cash in his pocket--no limits whatsoever--pass them on to another man minutes later, and there is no law broken.

And now, I ask those NRA members who haven't wandered off to shoot something, why are there no laws in Arizona that might stop this travesty? How is it that such an obvious pipeline of arms into the hands of savages cannot be stopped?

Because of the stinking NRA. That's why, you dopes. Together with their fellow aiders and abettors in the Republican Party, the NRA has weakened guns laws in this country, has weakened the ATF itself, has tied prosecutors' hands, has politicized the issues so thoroughly, that any attempt to slow the carnage not only in Mexico but in America's cities is doomed to failure, just as was Fast and Furious.

Sooner or later, if you have any integrity left, you boobs who brag about your membership in this mess are going to have to ask yourselves: Just who does the NRA represent? You? Or the drug lords south and north of the border? Where does all that big NRA money come from with which it buys politicians like you buy watermelons to blow off fence posts? Your membership dues? Or those who profit from the tools of mass slaughter? Perhaps even the monsters who buy them at a rate of 2,000 a day?

You, the children of the NRA, are a dim-witted front behind which an incredible evil hides, but I hold little hope you'll ever figure it out.

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"However, my skin is sufficiently thick to being called stupid, particularly by anyone who would belong to or defend the NRA."

Thick skin must come handy when you do not know the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons.

Obtaining an automatic weapon is quite an arduous process involving special Federal permits and they cost considerably more than your diatribe suggests.

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Posted by seekandfind on 07/11/2012 at 8:43 AM

To fellow NRA members (I'm a Life Member) and/or anybody else who might respond to Little Billy's rant... please consider. Billy is the "journalistic" equivalent of a bratty punk kid who throws a tantrum at Walmart because he loves the attention - even negative attention.

Admittedly, I didn't read his whole column this week, but the first paragraph clearly identifies his intent - to get responses. If you respond, you'll give him some sort of spoiled-brat gratification.

'Nuff said. I recommend you move on.

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Posted by bikeboy on 07/11/2012 at 9:14 AM

Okay, I read it.

Bill: "... one man can buy as many assault rifles as he has cash in his pocket--no limits whatsoever--pass them on to another man minutes later, and there is no law broken."

I don't think Bill is stupid, but he's certainly ignorant. First of all, "assault rifle" refers to a fully-automatic or select-fire rifle... not a "scary looking semiauto." (Bill is certainly not alone in that point of ignorance.) Second, the scenario he describes is only legal if the "another man" is legally able to possess a gun. If he's a criminal, drug user, mentally incompetent, etc., the "one man" has committed a felony and could be sent to the slammer for 10 years. (Of course, Bill rarely lets facts get in the way of his weekly colorful invective.)

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Posted by bikeboy on 07/11/2012 at 9:59 AM

Bubba Lars here. Bill put a bug in my britches when he stated, "if you're 18 and don't have a felony record, you can walk into one of those outlets, plunk down $20,000, and walk out with 20 or more automatic weapons." That statement clearly does not hold water. Even a cursory internet investigation reveals his lack of understanding. seekand find states it is an arduous process. This is true. But, to my understanding, there are no special permits required. One must pass criminal background checks and pay a $200 tax on each automatic weapon to be purchased - up front. Additionally, the local sheriff must 'sign-off' on the purchaser. This process can take 3 - 6 months. bikeboy is correct too. If said purchaser "one man" sells his automatic weapon to "another man" who isn't legally qualified to possess it, he is certainly in peril of prosecution.

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Posted by alpineskier on 07/11/2012 at 5:55 PM

I used to think that the founding fathers possessed enough wisdom when penning our present day constitution to recognize that after the ink had dried on the first amendment, they needed some teeth to back it up - hence the second amendment. I guess they did not teach this at Berkely or whatever other liberal think tank that Mr. Cope received his blogging credentials from.

Thank God for the brilliance of Mr. Cope in opening my eyes to the evils of the gun world. I guess the 20,000 some laws pertaining to firearms (including laws against illegal export, strawman purchases, and illegal immigrants purchasing firearms) need to be further enhanced for them to work. In fact, I think that we should just take Bill's unquestionable knowledge of the workings of the world (he is certainly smarter than all the founding fathers, NRA members, and all of our country's citizenry combined) and immediately ban and confiscate all firearms in the United States period! Then the drug runners of Mexico will have no guns - that is unless they decide to import from China, Iran, or any other source willing to sell to them. I think that has been done before in many countries and how did that work out for the masses?

Yes, the brilliance of Mr. Cope is beyone reproach.

Oh - one parting thought..... We could just enforce our immigration laws instead and solve a myriad of problems that plague our society all at once?

What about that one Billy?

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Posted by Bill Hutcheson on 07/12/2012 at 1:07 PM

Quick question to my fellow posters - Did anyone else read the article Cope referenced?

Posted by alpineskier on 07/12/2012 at 2:25 PM

I ask you this question directly, seekandfind - What specific Federal Permit do we, as law abiding citizens, need to purchase a fully automatic gun?

Posted by alpineskier on 07/12/2012 at 2:36 PM

OK alpineskier:

Would you call obtaining a $200 FEDERAL excise tax fee document fee a permit?
Would you call the steps listed below arduous?

It DOES NOT apply to AR-15 "assault weapons" that are sold with the same rules as buying your child a single shot .22 rifle.

a good sumary here:


Federal law strictly regulates machine guns (firearms that fire many rounds of ammunition, without manual reloading, with a single pull of the trigger).

Among other things, federal law:

1. requires all machine guns, except antique firearms, not in the U.S. government's possession to be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF);

2. bars private individuals from transferring or acquiring machine guns except those lawfully possessed and registered before May 19, 1986;

3. requires anyone transferring or manufacturing machine guns to get prior ATF approval and register the firearms;

4. with very limited exceptions, imposes a $200 excise tax whenever a machine gun is transferred;

5. bars interstate transport of machine guns without ATF approval; and

6. imposes harsh penalties for machine gun violations, including imprisonment of up to 10 years, a fine of up to $250,000, or both for possessing an unregistered machine gun.

The lawful transfer of a machine gun generally requires (1) filing a transfer application with ATF, (2) paying a transfer tax, (3) getting ATF approval, and (4) registering the firearm in the transferee's name. Transferees must pass an extensive criminal background investigation and meet the criteria for possessing firearms under state and federal law. Among those ineligible are felons and people (1) addicted to controlled substances, (2) discharged under dishonorable conditions from the U.S. Armed Forces, or (3) adjudicated mentally defective or committed to a mental institution.

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Posted by seekandfind on 07/12/2012 at 5:14 PM

Point of clarification:

What is an assault rifle? There is no definitive definition.

Most people call AR-15 type rifles, which are SEMI-AUTOMATIC rifles, assault rifles or weapons.
Some say the "assault rifle" catagory only includes those same kind of weapons which
are capable of fully AUTOMATIC firing.

Semi-automatic means the weapon self reloads a new round into the chamber after a shot is fired. Each pull of the trigger results in a single shot being fired, and the rifle readies itself to be fired again with a new pull of the trigger.

Automatic versions of the same weapons fire either a three round burst, or will fire every round available while the trigger is held in the fire position.

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Posted by seekandfind on 07/12/2012 at 5:27 PM

Alpineskier: "Quick question to my fellow posters - Did anyone else read the article Cope referenced?"

If you are going to ask that question, why not supply the link?


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Posted by seekandfind on 07/12/2012 at 5:35 PM

seekandfind, I hope the gentle reader appreciates your input as much as I.
I failed to provide the link to the story Mr Cope referenced
This link you provided is absolutley crucial

Posted by alpineskier on 07/12/2012 at 8:02 PM

Ha ha that is one funny piece. I did enjoy reading your take on the NRA. What you say is border line true. I had a police friend of mine convinced Obama was going to shut down the constitution. So he bought up as much ammo as he could afford, as did his buddies and their buddies.......causing a Ammo shortage nation wide.

I never needed a machine gun to hunt nor do I need the NRA. I wish the NRA would get the hell out of my barrel.

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Posted by Innes Wright on 07/13/2012 at 5:51 AM

Boy Bill you are right. Every nut in the country gets their dander up when you mention the NRA. Anyone wanting a bit of clarification on Fast and Furious and gun laws should read this CNN article entitled, "The Truth about the Fast and Furious Scandal". Read it here: http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012…

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Posted by BigGear on 07/13/2012 at 6:31 AM

Another point, if we go to the original intent of the founders and agree they meant for citizens to be armed with zero regulation, then they also intended for them to be armed with smooth bore black powder muskets and pistols and not the high powered rifles and pistols of today.

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Posted by BigGear on 07/13/2012 at 6:36 AM

Also, in his article, Mr. Cope referenced the Fortune article. "The Mexican government has estimated that 2,000 weapons are smuggled daily from the U.S. into Mexico." This is not a verified statistic - merely an estimate. I hesitate to rely on anything the Mexican government has to say at this point. I agree with Innes Wright, "I wish the NRA would get the hell out of my barrel." I am not a member and it is entirely unlikely I will become one.

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Posted by alpineskier on 07/13/2012 at 3:59 PM

All the early knee-jerk posters focused on Bills use of the term "automatic" instead of "semiautomatic". It's really just a matter of semantics considering the amount of damage that can be done with a semiautomatic weapon. On January 8, 2011, U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords and eighteen other people were shot during a public meeting held in a supermarket parking lot in Casas Adobes, near Tucson, Arizona with a semiautomatic weapon.

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Posted by ericn1300 on 07/13/2012 at 6:53 PM

Know we know there are "knee-jerk" and perhaps jerk reactions to the article and the subsequent posts.

How about we examine this little tibbit of absolute nonsense: "Up to 55,000 people--Mexican cops, soldiers and innocent civilians, as well as drug thugs--have been slaughtered in the past five years, all with guns supplied through American dealerships."

The victims have been found mudered in a multitude of ways. Bombings are just one example that have killed many. But our ever hateful Bill says "all" were killed with weapons fromm America. That is just plain ignorant thinking.

In this one column, he calls NRA folks, and second amendment supporters: "gun nuts, dumbest of the dumb, hillbillies, slimy, abysmally ignorant, Bubbas, dopes, boobs, and dim witted."

Thank goodness Bill gets to live where he can enjoy the many rights provided in the first amendment. He takes full advantage of them. And thank goodness there are those who uphold those rights by zealously protecting the second amendment. It was put in place precisely so citizens could do just that.

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Posted by seekandfind on 07/13/2012 at 7:29 PM

Guns are fine. I've used them on occasion most of my life. But I'm not a big fan of the NRA or people who seem to be Gun Worshipers because Worshiping Guns falls under the category of Religious Fanaticism and I'm not a real big fan of religious fanatics for obvious reasons. The lies being told about the 2nd amendment are profound. The 2nd amendment was put into place so that the people could keep arms in their homes to be used in case the militia was called to duty since the U.S. did not have a standing army at the time.

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Posted by Mick on 07/13/2012 at 9:01 PM

Bill your article is full of racist remarks and hatred. You call everyone who doesn't agree with your point of view either stupid, dumb, slimy etc. Then you lump those same people in a catagory of hillbillies and Bubbas, implying they are all just ignorant gun toting rednecks. Wow, that's some great journalism. Let me explain the FACTS to you regarding the Fast and Furious debacle;
You stated that it was never designed to let guns " walk " into the hands of criminals but that's exactly what happened, and now they lost track of where all these firearms went, so how is that NOT letting guns walk? And really, give guns to criminals to find their link?? Gimme a break! Law abiding citizens that own and/.or carry firearms do so with the responsibility of registering them, keeping them in a locked and safe place and by learning the proper way to use them. Criminals and drug cartels are hardly walking into Walmart, providing identification and them registering them; they are CRIMINALS !!! They buy or steal or do whatever they need to do to to aid their illegal behavior. " Bubba " owner of a gun shop is hardly selling to these corrupt people. The crimals supply themselves thru black market purchases, all of which is illegal. It is NOT the murerous daisy chain you are trying to portray it to be, thugs break the law!!! Get a taste of reality Bill.

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Posted by cellibelly on 07/15/2012 at 4:15 PM

Ever think about why these cartels are in business in the first place? Look up "illegal drugs," you know, that highly profitable black market business that has it's own set of regulations. Look in the mirror, Cope. If you or any of your friends ever smoked some grass or did "a little blow" on the weekends, in spite of the ill-conceived "war on drugs," the blood is on your hands for supporting politicians who practice a business-as-usual policy. Guns are tools used by governments and similar organizations, like drug cartels, to enforce/expand their territorial boundaries and rules.

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Posted by Anonymous on 07/16/2012 at 3:00 PM

The Blood of thousands of of Mexicans are on U.S. Hands because U.S. Citizens buy drugs, empowering the Mexican Drug Cartels and sell arms to the Cartels.

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Posted by Mick on 07/16/2012 at 3:52 PM

"The Blood of thousands of of Mexicans are on U.S. Hands because U.S. Citizens buy drugs, empowering the Mexican Drug Cartels and sell arms to the Cartels."

Bullshit. That is the weak and apologetic thinking and behavior of the current joke serving just above the Vice-President in our country.

There are loads and loads of folks all over this world who are highly motivated to kill each other. Their motivation may be land, power, oil, glory, past injustice, or most likely-religion, but they do not need the United States to foster the discord.

Mexico has a long and very complex history of rampant government corruption and oppression of the masses to the benifit of the powerful few. It is not the demand for drugs that has Mexico in chaos. It is the failure of the Mexican people to take back their country from the ruthless and greedy tiny ruling minority. I have been to Mexico many times. I marvel at the soul of the hard working, honest, and proud people I meet. Mexico has an incredibly rich and interesting history, vast natural resources, fabulous geography and coastlines, ideal climate, and proximity to the greatest country on earth. Maybe what they need is vastly more weapons to take back their land for the people.

Why are the Syrian rebels attacking the USA for failing to support them? When did that become our duty? Why is it our business that people in Africa are at war with each other?
We have 943 military instalations around the world. How about we cut that back to the 10 or 20 most important to protect American interests? It appears that our involvement just leads to more and more sophisticated weapons of death being deployed. It is time we just bring our troops home and mind our own business.

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Posted by seekandfind on 07/16/2012 at 4:56 PM

Bullshit back to Ya! 80 billion bucks flowing into Mexico annually from North America to buy Drugs and a Study indicating that most of the Cartel Arms were sold from North America says you're wrong. The U.S. and Mexico are both Corrupt just slightly different types of Corruption.

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Posted by Mick on 07/16/2012 at 5:08 PM

Sorry Mick, $80 billion going to Mexico each year for drugs? We have about 300 million folks here. Let's cut out the oldest third and youngest third. That leaves 100 million potential customers. EVERY SINGLE ONE of that 100 million people would have to be spending $800 a year on Mexican dope. Your numbers are outright nonsense.
A "study" that says the arms came from North America you say? Special interest groups can purchase research that will prove what ever it is they want to be proved.

The simple truth is that we could stop all weapons traffic into Mexico by locking the border down tight as a drum. It would actually be fairly simple to do that. One of the loudest complainers about any effort to close our borders is the Mexican government. They are very dependent on their citizens becoming criminals by entering the USA to work and sending money back to Mexico. The weapons entering Mexico are in answer to demand, the same as the drugs coming north. Why do you blame Americans for having demand for drugs but not Mexicans for having demand for weapons?

My ultimate bottom line thinking on this entire subject is that the "war on drugs" is a huge jobs program gone absolutely bonkers. The drug prevention effort/scam is a much more expensive cancer than the drug use it claims to want to wipe out. The last thing the drug enforcement leeches want is to wipe out their reason for being.

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Posted by seekandfind on 07/17/2012 at 12:51 AM

Cope's "opinion", is ill informed and ignorant of facts. One can always tell a misinformed person, like most Obama supporters, when name calling and cursing is the best argument they have. Liberals are an "evolving breed" for sure.

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